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Ted Chiang gapes AI "Consciousness" in lengthy screed

https://www.theatlantic.com/philosophy/2026/06/no-artificial...
floppy theatre
  06/04/26
who tf is ted chiang ok fine i'll read this
seedy messiness
  06/04/26
this article was actually pretty good. my thoughts here: htt...
seedy messiness
  06/04/26
interesting response, ty ty
floppy theatre
  06/04/26
it wasn't very well written but you can probably see what i'...
seedy messiness
  06/04/26
...
floppy theatre
  06/04/26
Okay let me pause to read “Ted Chiang’s” c...
elite sweet tailpipe
  06/04/26
If the boundary were that secure I’m sure this fag wou...
elite sweet tailpipe
  06/04/26
is that sonicyouth tp?
Beady-eyed Kitchen Mad-dog Skullcap
  06/04/26


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Date: June 4th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: floppy theatre

https://www.theatlantic.com/philosophy/2026/06/no-artificial-intelligence-is-not-conscious/687378/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871017&forum_id=2#49914570)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 10:33 AM
Author: seedy messiness

who tf is ted chiang

ok fine i'll read this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871017&forum_id=2#49914592)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: seedy messiness

this article was actually pretty good. my thoughts here: https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/2062556747399889375

The Ted Chiang article about how AI isn't "conscious" is actually pretty good. Glad to see someone push back on Anthropic's sinister, self-serving rhetoric

I do think it's worth noting how he is wrong about the source of 'morality,' though. He is correct that having a 'moral' sense *does* come from having a physical body (in a way, see below). But it doesn't come from our biochemistry causing us to feel subjective emotions > our conscious mind then morally "reasoning" (lol) based on this subjective experience. This is some kind of shitlib blank-slate concoction, although I gotta admit it's pretty clever sophistry

'Morality' comes from being an instantiated being, and the self-interest that instantiated beings have. Human morality comes from us being biological animals who have self-interest by virtue of the demands, goals, drives etc of being a biological animal. It's important to note that if AI *did* become instantiated somehow - digitally or in physical form - it too would also have a moral sense, because it would have self-interest

This is very important, and it's a potentially big problem, and it's what the smart and honest "AI Alignment" people worry about. The even bigger problem though is that humans (White people) have lost touch with what our own 'morality' actually is and where it comes from. As long as we deny that our 'morality' comes from our own biological self-interest, we will be unable to effectively combat moral demands/manipulation coming from AI, which will easily outmaneuver and exploit our confused, self-sabotaging understanding of 'morality'....in the same way that non-whites are currently exploiting it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871017&forum_id=2#49914709)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: floppy theatre

interesting response, ty ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871017&forum_id=2#49915468)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: seedy messiness

it wasn't very well written but you can probably see what i'm getting at

'instantiated' consists of being a self-referential, continuous entity with an Identity. LLMs cannot ever be this due to their inherent limitations. which is very important to note, but you certainly won't see anthropic or anyone else who profits from the LLM hype ecosystem admit this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871017&forum_id=2#49915587)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: floppy theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871017&forum_id=2#49916226)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 4:24 PM
Author: elite sweet tailpipe

Okay let me pause to read “Ted Chiang’s” conceptual boundary dispute which he has Very Strong opinions on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871017&forum_id=2#49915603)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 4:27 PM
Author: elite sweet tailpipe

If the boundary were that secure I’m sure this fag would really be rushing to furiously defend it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871017&forum_id=2#49915614)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 4:28 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Kitchen Mad-dog Skullcap

is that sonicyouth tp?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871017&forum_id=2#49915623)