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why do people think logic games is so improvable?

this doesnt really make sense. there's nothing esoter...
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
the diagramming, being a retard who doesn't instinctively ge...
Talking weed whacker
  03/08/12
...
Motley flickering newt
  03/08/12
also you get much better at them just by doing around 20-30
Motley flickering newt
  03/08/12
wouldnt you naturally diagram if it seemed necessary?
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
I don't know, there are different ways to diagram, and you m...
Talking weed whacker
  03/08/12
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6
Carmine psychic volcanic crater
  03/08/12
STFU doobs
flatulent police squad preventive strike
  03/08/12
doobs would murder everyone on this chatblog if he could hav...
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
what did you get breh? what kind of score would you guarante...
flatulent police squad preventive strike
  03/08/12
should i do this? im not a law student and not looking ...
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
breh you didn't answer like any of my questions. the issue ...
flatulent police squad preventive strike
  03/08/12
would they really breh? im not a lawyer so i dont know
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
you'd catch a felony charge and the feds might get involved ...
flatulent police squad preventive strike
  03/08/12
jesus, breh. id probably charge at least 25k in that ca...
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
too much money. no one's paying you $25k because you got a 1...
flatulent police squad preventive strike
  03/08/12
fuck. i dont want to go to jail, though.
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
probably shouldn't take the SAT for bros then. although like...
flatulent police squad preventive strike
  03/08/12
because there's only 4 or 5 common setups - people who origi...
Bright Floppy Ape
  03/08/12
but if youre dumb enough to really suck at it then i think t...
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
not to a lot of reasonably bright ppl, actually
Talking weed whacker
  03/08/12
because you learn the few techniques and frameworks necessar...
Laughsome business firm windowlicker
  03/08/12
wheres the "technique" or "framework" th...
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
unless you automatically know how to efficiently symbolicall...
Laughsome business firm windowlicker
  03/08/12
havent these people been doing symbolic representation/manip...
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
i had very little experience with it the first time i'd ever...
Laughsome business firm windowlicker
  03/08/12
because once you learn to ignore all the stuff about "a...
elite chocolate senate
  03/08/12
what requires a book/class/tutor to teach you this shit?
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
lacking a logical cast of mind
Talking weed whacker
  03/08/12
in which case youre fucked anyway, right? im not doubti...
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
nope, not fucked anyway. we can only repeat the same cycle o...
Talking weed whacker
  03/08/12
but theres no evidence im wrong. the lsats are pretty s...
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
you know that raw scores haven't improved/that the test hasn...
Talking weed whacker
  03/08/12
no, i havent seen evidence of this.
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
all the evidence indicates ur wrong u dumbshit.
appetizing international law enforcement agency
  03/08/12
i don't think you need a book or a class necessarily, just s...
elite chocolate senate
  03/08/12
because shit tons of people improve on it by reading the LG ...
sickened plaza
  03/08/12
i guess this is what i kind of doubt
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
it's a fact though
Talking weed whacker
  03/08/12
im guessing the lsac doesnt admit this.
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
yeah I imagine they don't advertise it
Talking weed whacker
  03/08/12
do you think everyone on TLS is gaining 10+ points by placeb...
sickened plaza
  03/08/12
i dont think people are gaining a ton of points. otherwise t...
Bronze Base
  03/08/12
lol every1 is just lieing faggot.
appetizing international law enforcement agency
  03/08/12
i don't think it's as easy to improve as some people say.
elite chocolate senate
  03/08/12
I think some ppl find it easy and others find it hard
Talking weed whacker
  03/08/12
yes
elite chocolate senate
  03/08/12
The average LSAT taker has never heard of TLS or LG Bible. I...
sickened plaza
  03/08/12
...
Talking weed whacker
  03/08/12
def. worth it to work on games now, in 2026, FOR SURE
nyuug
  02/19/26
dumbing down tests is superior anglo culture bro
nyuug
  02/23/26
What law school did you go to, big guy?
Norwoody Allen
  02/23/26
u seem pretty mad@ america dumbing down literally every stan...
nyuug
  02/23/26
Nonresponsive, champ
Norwoody Allen
  02/23/26


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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: Bronze Base

this doesnt really make sense.

there's nothing esoteric about a logic game. the only difficulty is the time limit. what techniques are supposed to improve this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20159725)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: Talking weed whacker

the diagramming, being a retard who doesn't instinctively get what a contrapositive is and learning it from an lsat logic games "bible"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20159728)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:19 PM
Author: Motley flickering newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20159743)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Motley flickering newt

also you get much better at them just by doing around 20-30

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20159746)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:22 PM
Author: Bronze Base

wouldnt you naturally diagram if it seemed necessary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160373)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: Talking weed whacker

I don't know, there are different ways to diagram, and you might not realize that diagramming's more efficient. I actually didn't diagram, just got one wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160388)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: Carmine psychic volcanic crater

http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20159729)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: flatulent police squad preventive strike

STFU doobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20159753)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: Bronze Base

doobs would murder everyone on this chatblog if he could have me take the lsat for him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160380)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:24 PM
Author: flatulent police squad preventive strike

what did you get breh? what kind of score would you guarantee? it would be awesome as fukkkk if i could take the LSAT for people. i think i could get $5,000 per administration if there was a good way to hook up with clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160398)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: Bronze Base

should i do this?

im not a law student and not looking to ever be admitted to the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160425)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: flatulent police squad preventive strike

breh you didn't answer like any of my questions. the issue isn't really whether you can get admitted to a bar, but whether they will throw your ass in motherfucking jail if you get caught.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160443)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:28 PM
Author: Bronze Base

would they really breh? im not a lawyer so i dont know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160449)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: flatulent police squad preventive strike

you'd catch a felony charge and the feds might get involved if you were crossing state lines to do it. i'd say there's a good chance they do give you some time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160460)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: Bronze Base

jesus, breh.

id probably charge at least 25k in that case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160484)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:33 PM
Author: flatulent police squad preventive strike

too much money. no one's paying you $25k because you got a 172.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160509)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:35 PM
Author: Bronze Base

fuck.

i dont want to go to jail, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160538)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:37 PM
Author: flatulent police squad preventive strike

probably shouldn't take the SAT for bros then. although likelihood of getting caught would be low if you did it just a couple times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160556)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: Bright Floppy Ape

because there's only 4 or 5 common setups - people who originally sucked at the section can generally learn these setups, how to deal with them, and profit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160389)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:25 PM
Author: Bronze Base

but if youre dumb enough to really suck at it then i think the time limit would fuck you anyway.

its not like theres a linear algebra section on the lsat. i can see why studying would make a big difference there, but logic games are pretty intuitive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160413)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: Talking weed whacker

not to a lot of reasonably bright ppl, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160430)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:25 PM
Author: Laughsome business firm windowlicker

because you learn the few techniques and frameworks necessary to solve all logic games and practice applying them quickly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160416)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: Bronze Base

wheres the "technique" or "framework" thats not really obvious?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160433)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: Laughsome business firm windowlicker

unless you automatically know how to efficiently symbolically represent the games on paper and manipulate those symbols towards the correct solution without going down a wrong path, practice is the only way you'll learn to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160468)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:32 PM
Author: Bronze Base

havent these people been doing symbolic representation/manipulation/computation since 6th grade?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160505)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Laughsome business firm windowlicker

i had very little experience with it the first time i'd ever seen it and i have a reasonably strong math background. my scores on games the first few times i tried them were abysmal. after practice and seeing some hints and techniques for attacking them, my scores were nearly perfect.

i think the real problem is that games require a minimal level of reading comprehension and mapping the ideas to symbols, then manipulating those symbols. this is different from writing essays or doing word problems in math. i guess it's closest to writing mathematical proofs but requires lower level but quicker logical reasoning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160572)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: elite chocolate senate

because once you learn to ignore all the stuff about "apartment buildings" and "Radio Station Disc Jockeys", etc., the problems are easier to deal with in terms of logical relationships.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160431)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: Bronze Base

what requires a book/class/tutor to teach you this shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160440)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: Talking weed whacker

lacking a logical cast of mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160459)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: Bronze Base

in which case youre fucked anyway, right?

im not doubting that techniques are useful to solve logic games. im doubting the kind of person who cant figure out these techniques on their own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160474)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:32 PM
Author: Talking weed whacker

nope, not fucked anyway. we can only repeat the same cycle of you rephrasing your point 50 different ways and me/other ppl saying you're wrong so many times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160497)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:35 PM
Author: Bronze Base

but theres no evidence im wrong.

the lsats are pretty similar. and people arent doing much better despite the increase in tutoring/practice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160530)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:36 PM
Author: Talking weed whacker

you know that raw scores haven't improved/that the test hasn't gotten harder over the past 15 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160550)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:42 PM
Author: Bronze Base

no, i havent seen evidence of this.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160622)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: appetizing international law enforcement agency

all the evidence indicates ur wrong u dumbshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160567)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: elite chocolate senate

i don't think you need a book or a class necessarily, just seeing the format of the problems ahead of time can help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160489)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: sickened plaza

because shit tons of people improve on it by reading the LG Bible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160439)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: Bronze Base

i guess this is what i kind of doubt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160446)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:28 PM
Author: Talking weed whacker

it's a fact though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160454)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: Bronze Base

im guessing the lsac doesnt admit this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160462)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: Talking weed whacker

yeah I imagine they don't advertise it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160472)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: sickened plaza

do you think everyone on TLS is gaining 10+ points by placebo effect or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160490)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: Bronze Base

i dont think people are gaining a ton of points. otherwise the test wouldnt be breaking people over the curve so easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160520)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:36 PM
Author: appetizing international law enforcement agency

lol every1 is just lieing faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160547)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: elite chocolate senate

i don't think it's as easy to improve as some people say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160568)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Talking weed whacker

I think some ppl find it easy and others find it hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160576)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:39 PM
Author: elite chocolate senate

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160588)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:40 PM
Author: sickened plaza

The average LSAT taker has never heard of TLS or LG Bible. I gained like 11 points from my diag, almost all of it on games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160596)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:41 PM
Author: Talking weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#20160600)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 6:45 PM
Author: nyuug

def. worth it to work on games now, in 2026, FOR SURE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#49681283)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 5:34 PM
Author: nyuug

dumbing down tests is superior anglo culture bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#49690069)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:01 PM
Author: Norwoody Allen

What law school did you go to, big guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#49690119)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:26 PM
Author: nyuug

u seem pretty mad@ america dumbing down literally every standardized test bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#49690191)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Norwoody Allen

Nonresponsive, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2#49690340)