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Katy Perry accused of rubbing her bare cunt on actress’s face

https://pagesix.com/2026/04/13/celebrity-news/katy-perry-den...
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  04/13/26
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Coral Haunting Alpha
  04/13/26
To be fair, between the ages of 15 and 22 I probably teabagg...
contagious white hall goyim
  04/13/26
at least 5 of these were total strangers I never met.
contagious white hall goyim
  04/13/26
none of them ever kicked your ass?
Boyish roommate
  04/13/26
*licked
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  04/14/26
I'm pretty sure all of them were passed out / sleeping.
contagious white hall goyim
  04/16/26
oh that makes way more sense. i know a football player (lin...
Boyish roommate
  04/17/26
Exactly. It's a great way to shit test whether someone is a ...
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  04/20/26
I’ve been to spice market bar, good bar, but I’m...
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  04/13/26
I wonder how this works mechanically, and whether there was ...
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Impossible there was not butthole/nose contact
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Unghh Does anyone know if this is common behavior for Ms....
Copper office
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when people make up stories they often don't even try to vis...
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  04/13/26
this is MAGA country, nigger
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Boyish roommate
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This sounds like the Holocaust
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...wish it was true but it's made up
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Battle of the Crazy Eyes. But Ruby Rose absolutely RADI...
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The two of them booze and gakked out determined to get all t...
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I think Katy Perry was famous 15-20 years ago no idea who th...
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if true, there should be boils and pustules where vagina mad...
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She’s known around LA to have a monstrously gross vag
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If you have a question just ask it little guy
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Concupiscible senate messiness
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i thought it was self-explanatory, boss. who is spreading th...
Boyish roommate
  04/14/26
You just have to go there and hang out in “the scene&r...
ruddy associate
  04/14/26
it lends credence to the story if she has droopy labia minor...
Transparent mood
  04/14/26
wwop
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This sounds exaggerated
cracking brethren
  04/13/26
Katy Perry was a non-famous gospel singer named Katie Hudson...
stimulating psychic bawdyhouse
  04/14/26
some gay guy should come and and pull the old "MEEEE TO...
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I have always found Katy Perry sexxy as hell-- so sue me.
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"Projectile vomited." And that was a lesbian.
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I would make such sweet luv to Katy https://www.youtube.com...
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Incredible thread title. Incredible allegation.
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Thanks. Once I saw the story I knew xo would love it, but th...
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Incredible stories. This is their story.
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Katy Perry's publicist is throwing Hail Marys it seems like.
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Once saw a documentary about Allie Sin where this happened t...
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  04/21/26
katy perry ALSO allegedly exposed a male co-star's penis WIT...
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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:36 PM
Author: Impressive Cyan Locale Halford

https://pagesix.com/2026/04/13/celebrity-news/katy-perry-denies-ruby-roses-sexual-assault-allegations/

“She didn’t kiss me. She saw me ‘resting’ on my best friend’s lap to avoid her and bent down, pulled her underwear to the side and rubbed her disgusting vagina on my face until my eyes snapped open and I projectile vomited on her,” she claimed about Perry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815367)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:37 PM
Author: Coral Haunting Alpha

based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815369)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:39 PM
Author: contagious white hall goyim

To be fair, between the ages of 15 and 22 I probably teabagged 20-30 guys. (Full bare balls on their face)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815375)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:45 PM
Author: contagious white hall goyim

at least 5 of these were total strangers I never met.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815387)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: Boyish roommate

none of them ever kicked your ass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815998)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:16 AM
Author: hairless naked indian lodge tank

*licked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816329)



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Date: April 16th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: contagious white hall goyim

I'm pretty sure all of them were passed out / sleeping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49822286)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 6:50 PM
Author: Boyish roommate

oh that makes way more sense. i know a football player (linebacker) who did this to some guys who were awake but yeah that's a pretty aggressive move if the guy can't take a joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49823919)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 8:04 PM
Author: contagious white hall goyim

Exactly. It's a great way to shit test whether someone is a chill fratty bro or a neurotic faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49830526)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:40 PM
Author: Vigorous Jade Crackhouse

I’ve been to spice market bar, good bar, but I’m ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815377)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Copper office

I wonder how this works mechanically, and whether there was also any butthole contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815398)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:25 PM
Author: Mind-boggling headpube really tough guy

Impossible there was not butthole/nose contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815794)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: 180 gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815801)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:48 PM
Author: Copper office

Unghh

Does anyone know if this is common behavior for Ms. Perry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816009)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:32 PM
Author: Passionate onyx national police squad

when people make up stories they often don't even try to visualize what they're claiming occurred

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815806)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:32 PM
Author: unhinged bronze temple

this is MAGA country, nigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815808)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Boyish roommate

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815999)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:50 PM
Author: brilliant hunting ground

This sounds like the Holocaust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815400)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:56 AM
Author: brilliant hunting ground

...wish it was true but it's made up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816486)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 5:57 AM
Author: ebony coldplay fan whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49831391)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 7:07 PM
Author: laughsome potus stage

Battle of the Crazy Eyes.

But Ruby Rose absolutely RADIATES histrionic BPD succubus serial fabulist energy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815437)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: offensive impertinent library gaping

The two of them booze and gakked out determined to get all the male attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815750)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:07 PM
Author: Odious Cuckold Voyeur

I think Katy Perry was famous 15-20 years ago no idea who this other person is supposed to be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815759)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: 180 gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815800)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:15 AM
Author: comical nighttime immigrant location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816326)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:20 PM
Author: unhinged bronze temple

there's a very real possibility that this event straight up never happened but both women have ended up hallucinating that it happened for separate reasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815785)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: 180 gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815799)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:30 AM
Author: bateful awkward international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816125)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: Soggy galvanic masturbator range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816040)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:40 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Lemon Menage Becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816131)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 6:03 AM
Author: sadistic titillating foreskin

mfcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816241)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:11 AM
Author: diverse bipolar rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816325)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:18 AM
Author: Concupiscible senate messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816331)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:47 AM
Author: Crystalline Bossy Hominid



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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: glittery zombie-like public bath death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816710)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:21 PM
Author: avocado mediation national security agency

if true, there should be boils and pustules where vagina made contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815787)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: swashbuckling meetinghouse jew

Lucky girl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815803)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: ruddy associate

She’s known around LA to have a monstrously gross vag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815955)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Boyish roommate

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816003)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:22 AM
Author: ruddy associate

If you have a question just ask it little guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816337)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:22 AM
Author: Concupiscible senate messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816339)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:34 AM
Author: Boyish roommate

i thought it was self-explanatory, boss. who is spreading these rumors in los angeles and can you expound upon them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816434)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: ruddy associate

You just have to go there and hang out in “the scene” for a few months. Pretty soon you’ll have a good grip on the credible gossip.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816892)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:08 AM
Author: Transparent mood

it lends credence to the story if she has droopy labia minora lips that she brushed across the victim's face, similar to a male tea-bagging

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816324)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 10:54 AM
Author: Angry sapphire sweet tailpipe tanning salon

wwop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816585)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:49 PM
Author: cracking brethren

This sounds exaggerated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816011)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:26 AM
Author: stimulating psychic bawdyhouse

Katy Perry was a non-famous gospel singer named Katie Hudson in 2005-06, there is zero chance this happened

Ruby Rose is deeply mentally ill and has falsely accused 3-4 celebrities of shit at this point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816121)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:35 AM
Author: fear-inspiring racy corn cake telephone

some gay guy should come and and pull the old "MEEEE TOOO" card for a straightup cash grab. fuck everyone involved. but also the allegation is nauseating and i find it funny that she claims she vomited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816130)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:30 AM
Author: apoplectic sooty weed whacker

I have always found Katy Perry sexxy as hell-- so sue me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816359)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:40 AM
Author: arousing disrespectful field

"Projectile vomited." And that was a lesbian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816371)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:46 AM
Author: apoplectic sooty weed whacker

I would make such sweet luv to Katy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nb_PcOJ0NU&list=RD5Nb_PcOJ0NU&start_radio=1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816381)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:40 AM
Author: arousing disrespectful field

Incredible thread title. Incredible allegation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816370)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: Impressive Cyan Locale Halford

Thanks. Once I saw the story I knew xo would love it, but the thread title had to be pithy. Sometimes the best stories are so out there it’s hard to summarize it in a way that it will pop here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816862)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:18 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chestnut marketing idea knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49824069)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chestnut marketing idea knife

Incredible stories. This is their story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49824046)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:37 AM
Author: cerebral state pistol

Katy Perry's publicist is throwing Hail Marys it seems like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816439)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:55 AM
Author: Concupiscible senate messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816483)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: Boyish roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49820837)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:32 AM
Author: Angry sapphire sweet tailpipe tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49831632)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: Dun soul-stirring shrine

Yes, libs. pizzagate was real. Just watch the video for "This Is How We Do".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816738)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:10 PM
Author: sexy circlehead kitty cat

tittywop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816872)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:15 PM
Author: Heady Embarrassed To The Bone Corner Stain

twice she groundered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816882)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 11:17 PM
Author: Pink giraffe



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:15 PM
Author: godawful gay factory reset button

I volunteer as tribute

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816885)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 5:39 AM
Author: sadistic titillating foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49831373)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 2:16 PM
Author: disgusting personal credit line orchestra pit

that lesbo damn well knows there’s nothing disgusting about pop princess vagina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49819591)



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Date: April 16th, 2026 8:20 PM
Author: fighting pale sex offender

🚨🚨🚨THIS IS A WLMAS ACCOUNT🚨🚨🚨DUMB NIGGER ALERT 🚨🚨🚨

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49822325)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: Boyish roommate

I Kissed A Girl (And I Liked It)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAp9BKosZXs

great pop song imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49820836)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 11:36 PM
Author: doobsian sinister dilemma boistinker

Once saw a documentary about Allie Sin where this happened to her and she got pissed off and walked off stage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49820909)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 8:55 AM
Author: Mind-boggling headpube really tough guy

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49831554)



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Date: April 16th, 2026 1:27 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chestnut marketing idea knife

'CAUSE YOU'RE HOT THEN YOU'RE COLD

YOU'RE YES, THEN YOU'RE NO

YOU'RE IN, THEN YOU'RE OUT

YOU'RE UP, THEN YOU'RE DOWN

YOU'RE WRONG WHEN IT'S RIGHT

IT'S BLACK AND IT'S WHITE

WE FIGHT, WE BREAK UP

WE KISS, WE MAKE UP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49820986)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 5:41 AM
Author: zippy philosopher-king milk

Majorly jewish incident and thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49831377)



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Date: April 24th, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: Boyish roommate

katy perry ALSO allegedly exposed a male co-star's penis WITHOUT HIS CONSENT. wtf is with these stories

https://pagesix.com/2026/04/24/celebrity-news/katy-perrys-teenage-dream-co-star-felt-devalued-and-degraded-when-singer-allegedly-exposed-his-genitals-at-party/

Kloss claimed that when he arrived with a friend, Perry — who was with a small group — greeted him excitedly outside the venue. As he was introducing the friend, he alleged Perry pulled his pants and underwear out, exposing his penis.

Kloss lamented on Instagram in August 2019, “Can you imagine how pathetic and embarrassed I felt?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49840970)