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weird how 20th c 'futurists' missed reality: west as white genocide police state

reading retardo 20th C 'futurist' literature, it's just the ...
Cream autistic dysfunction
  11/29/22
orwell's predictions weren't bad, but he was a globohomo shi...
Multi-colored maroon french chef
  11/29/22
orwell was actually a total midwit (and a shitlib, like you ...
infuriating people who are hurt indian lodge
  11/29/22
i do think 1984 the book was genius. lightning in a bottle?...
Multi-colored maroon french chef
  11/29/22
Good specific examples - you are obviously an incisive think...
brilliant double fault
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Rambunctious Domesticated Headpube Stead
  11/29/22
Orwell was based and was one of very few English writers w/ ...
Cream autistic dysfunction
  11/29/22
lol, i don't care at all if you're not familiar with orwell'...
infuriating people who are hurt indian lodge
  11/29/22
Face it bro, you got pwned
Brindle idiot prole
  11/29/22
I assert contrarian conclusions with no support! I’m ...
brilliant double fault
  11/29/22
180
Amber shitlib
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Brindle idiot prole
  11/29/22
absurd position, his essays are better than his books tha...
citrine bawdyhouse mental disorder
  11/30/22
Not a Raspail fan?
lake exciting stag film
  11/29/22
didn't Raspail conspicuously fail to mention Jews. but, ye...
Cream autistic dysfunction
  11/29/22
JG Ballard was not really trying to predict the future, but ...
lake exciting stag film
  11/29/22
wtf are you talking about. his whole self-announced genre wa...
Cream autistic dysfunction
  11/29/22
Sci-fi in general purports to be about the future, but seldo...
lake exciting stag film
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khaki black woman locus
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infuriating people who are hurt indian lodge
  11/29/22
of course it's 'literature.' so was Raspail, whom you just b...
Cream autistic dysfunction
  11/30/22
I agree with your overall point ITT but you’re barking...
marvelous crimson set sound barrier
  11/30/22
That you have no answer to my specific question about two JG...
lake exciting stag film
  11/30/22
if you can keep it
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Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower
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i don't think futurists saw anything as insane and stupid as...
french arousing really tough guy
  11/29/22
no one would have believed child genital mutilation as enfor...
Multi-colored maroon french chef
  11/29/22
but why would they have been foolish enough to do that, give...
Cream autistic dysfunction
  11/29/22
William Gibson and cyberpunk in general was pretty accurate....
Excitant theater stage puppy
  11/29/22
the real answer to the OP is that none of these guys were ac...
infuriating people who are hurt indian lodge
  11/29/22
woah, cr, friend
pale whorehouse
  11/29/22
This is sadly and utterly credited
Vibrant newt site
  11/29/22
"the real answer to the OP is that none of these guys w...
Alcoholic stimulating theater
  11/30/22
I think Huxley nailed it: The constitutions will not be a...
Histrionic Hyperactive Fortuitous Meteor
  11/29/22
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Excitant theater stage puppy
  11/29/22
To be fair, he cheated by being a member of the proto-NWO an...
lake exciting stag film
  11/29/22
(unhinged schizoid tinfoil nutter)
Histrionic Hyperactive Fortuitous Meteor
  11/29/22
WALLACE: And well, what…what do you mean? We develop...
lake exciting stag film
  11/29/22
So glad we don’t have uniform social-political messagi...
Histrionic Hyperactive Fortuitous Meteor
  11/29/22
😅
lake exciting stag film
  11/29/22
Right, Huxley is the real Orwell
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umber thriller library
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As someone above alluded to, never before in history has a p...
Up-to-no-good embarrassed to the bone yarmulke doctorate
  11/29/22
HG Wells's THE TIME MACHINE is pretty prescient, too.
lake exciting stag film
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this is the all-time GOAT of the genre the eloi alone is ...
infuriating people who are hurt indian lodge
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lake exciting stag film
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I don't think (((publishers))) would have printed a book abo...
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Lothrop Stoddard Spengler (Decline & Fall of the West) ...
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Date: November 29th, 2022 1:42 PM
Author: Cream autistic dysfunction

reading retardo 20th C 'futurist' literature, it's just the dumbest, utter goofball shit, lol. embarrassing that nobody could extrapolate from contemporary experience in EU (bolshevism, weimar) and from past events (109 countries) what was actually bound to happen (was already happening).

instead, it was all, like, 'Max Headroom will be POTUS!'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559140)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 1:44 PM
Author: Multi-colored maroon french chef

orwell's predictions weren't bad, but he was a globohomo shitlib whose warnings in the book were essentially satanic revelation of the method

i tried reading brave new world and it was one of the most poorly written things ive ever tried reading

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559146)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 1:45 PM
Author: infuriating people who are hurt indian lodge

orwell was actually a total midwit (and a shitlib, like you point out)

he was a shitty writer and if you read his "thoughts" on the world outside of his books, they are embarrassingly stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559157)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 1:47 PM
Author: Multi-colored maroon french chef

i do think 1984 the book was genius. lightning in a bottle?

i have a book of orwell's nonfiction writings and have been dreading reading it for precisely the reasons you point out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559163)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:44 PM
Author: brilliant double fault

Good specific examples - you are obviously an incisive thinker and writer and so we should listen to you over the guy who wrote politics and the English language, 1984 and Animal Farm, which millions of people have read and found interesting and informative. All of these works are devastating to a whole bunch of modern shitlib orthodox thought about the ever-expanding role of the government and using language to manipulate reality and obfuscate your goals and methods. But sure, whatever, grr fuck libs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559440)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:49 PM
Author: Rambunctious Domesticated Headpube Stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559470)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:54 PM
Author: Cream autistic dysfunction

Orwell was based and was one of very few English writers w/ a fundamentally masculine POV. the whole 'Orwell was a Midwit' meme is completely bizarre and comes out of lefty resentment re: Orwell's later nationalist turn, and his ratting out Jews/fifth columnists to British Intelligence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559492)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:55 PM
Author: infuriating people who are hurt indian lodge

lol, i don't care at all if you're not familiar with orwell's mega-cringe midwittery. if you're interested, you can read his work for yourself

go back to reddit with this faggoty "Source? Source???" pseudo-intellectual blather

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559499)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 3:41 PM
Author: Brindle idiot prole

Face it bro, you got pwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559779)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 9:08 PM
Author: brilliant double fault

I assert contrarian conclusions with no support! I’m an internet genius and everyone else is mediocre!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45561141)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 9:11 PM
Author: Amber shitlib

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45561153)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 3:40 PM
Author: Brindle idiot prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559764)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 11:44 AM
Author: citrine bawdyhouse mental disorder

absurd position, his essays are better than his books

that being said he did have a weekly column so there's a lot of real mediocre installments, but his best are absolute top notch.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45563702)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 1:57 PM
Author: lake exciting stag film

Not a Raspail fan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559208)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:12 PM
Author: Cream autistic dysfunction

didn't Raspail conspicuously fail to mention Jews.

but, yeah, he gets credit. a few people understood where things were heading, but really shockingly few.

i'm thinking of someone like JG Ballard, who really was smart and perceptive enough to know better, but everything he wrote about 'the future' was preposterous nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559271)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:27 PM
Author: lake exciting stag film

JG Ballard was not really trying to predict the future, but rather to write a different kind of literary fiction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559351)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:36 PM
Author: Cream autistic dysfunction

wtf are you talking about. his whole self-announced genre was 'speculative fiction' about the future. he also talked repeatedly in interviews and essays about his vision of 'the future', and it was every bit as retarded as that described in his novels. you should try to have some idea of what you are talking about before trying to 'correct' people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559389)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:38 PM
Author: lake exciting stag film

Sci-fi in general purports to be about the future, but seldom actually is. Do you really think his short story about crystal beings, or the one about never needing sleep, etc., was a straight attempt at attempting to accurately predict the future and not a literary work?

You should be less sensitive to perceived criticisms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559398)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 3:37 PM
Author: khaki black woman locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559736)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 3:47 PM
Author: infuriating people who are hurt indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559820)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 6:23 AM
Author: Cream autistic dysfunction

of course it's 'literature.' so was Raspail, whom you just brought up. so what? someone doesn't need to issue Nostradamus-like prophecies, complete w/ names and calendar dates, in order to be regarded as 'predictive'.

JG Ballard's fifty years' explicit commentary on 'the future' -- in fiction, essays, interviews, film -- was not some kind of meta-literary hoax in which he was AKSHULLY subverting the idea that the future could be predicted in any way, as an esoteric literary aesthetic, or whatever. that's ridiculous. his ideas/themes were broadly predictive, and he said so repeatedly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45562573)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:04 AM
Author: marvelous crimson set sound barrier

I agree with your overall point ITT but you’re barking up the wrong tree w/r/t Ballard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45562799)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 10:09 AM
Author: lake exciting stag film

That you have no answer to my specific question about two JG Ballard short stories (I could name many others) is telling. You also tilt hyperbolically at an inchoate strawman (that JG Ballard was somehow engaging in some hoax where he purported to be foretelling the future when he was plainly writing literary fiction), unsurprisingly missing the mark.

I am sympathetic to your general thesis, but your autistic insistence that anything labeled "scifi" must therefore function as a straight prediction of the future is laughable and makes you look like a buffoon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45563177)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:13 PM
Author: Clear house cuck

if you can keep it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559272)



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Date: January 28th, 2026 5:36 PM
Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#49627705)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:34 PM
Author: french arousing really tough guy

i don't think futurists saw anything as insane and stupid as modern anti-whiteness simply because it would have been so dumb. most futurism tried to attribute powers of basic reasoning to the rulers of the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559381)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:36 PM
Author: Multi-colored maroon french chef

no one would have believed child genital mutilation as enforced public policy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559391)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:39 PM
Author: Cream autistic dysfunction

but why would they have been foolish enough to do that, given that they had 5,000 years worth of reference material which argued against it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559411)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:43 PM
Author: Excitant theater stage puppy

William Gibson and cyberpunk in general was pretty accurate.

Gene Roddenberry saw a world where the races are integrated and countries are disbanded under the Federation of planets. Maybe that’s where we’re headed. There’s nothing to do anymore except try to build starships afaict.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559437)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:53 PM
Author: infuriating people who are hurt indian lodge

the real answer to the OP is that none of these guys were actually very intelligent or insightful, just like pretty much everybody in the world, outside of a tiny % of outliers

there's a generation of people (boomers) who have lived through this entire saga and have experienced it directly with their own senses and experience, and the vast majority of these people *still* don't get it. these are people who were born into 95% white america in the 1950s and who have lived through it all: 95% white, christian utopia, the blatant attack on and undermining of this society in the 70s, forced integration and the civil rights act, the hart-cellar act of 1965 and decades of brown foreign invasion, jewish neocons orchestrating middle east war after middle east war for israel, countless acts of collective black hatred of whites like the OJ simpson trial, rodney king, and BLM, and then the recent post-obama years of outright deranged shitlibbery like gay marriage, CRT, BLM, and brazen anti-trump corruption

even though these people have all lived through this entire saga and directly experienced it, if you put a gun to the average boomer's head and told them to extrapolate the future, these people would STILL be COMPLETELY CLUELESS about it. they would give you some kind of utterly asinine incoherent nonsense like, "common-sense centrism will win out in the end"

people are just hopelessly dumb. it's not just "authors" who are inexplicably clueless about their own field. the average professional "economist" or "doctor" wouldn't be able to give you a halfway sensible prediction of what the economy or medicine will look like 10 years from now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559487)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 9:10 PM
Author: pale whorehouse

woah, cr, friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45561152)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 10:33 PM
Author: Vibrant newt site

This is sadly and utterly credited

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45561540)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:37 AM
Author: Alcoholic stimulating theater

"the real answer to the OP is that none of these guys were actually very intelligent or insightful, just like pretty much everybody in the world, outside of a tiny % of outliers"

Let me guess, you're one of the outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45562994)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:54 PM
Author: Histrionic Hyperactive Fortuitous Meteor

I think Huxley nailed it:

The constitutions will not be abrogated and the good laws will remain on the statute book; but these liberal forms will merely serve to mask and adorn a profoundly illiberal substance. ...We may expect to see in the democratic countries a reversal of the process which transformed England into a democracy, while retaining all the outward forms of a monarchy. ...By means of ever more effective methods of mind-manipulation, the democracies will change their nature; the quaint old forms — elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts and all the rest — will remain. The underlying substance will be a new kind of non-violent totalitarianism. All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial — but democracy and freedom in a strictly Pickwickian sense. Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and its highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit.

-- Brave New World Revisited, 1958

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559495)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:56 PM
Author: Excitant theater stage puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559507)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 3:48 PM
Author: lake exciting stag film

To be fair, he cheated by being a member of the proto-NWO and simply reporting on their activities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559826)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 4:30 PM
Author: Histrionic Hyperactive Fortuitous Meteor

(unhinged schizoid tinfoil nutter)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45560044)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 7:11 PM
Author: lake exciting stag film

WALLACE: And well, what…what do you mean? We developed our television but we don't know how to use it correctly, is that the point that you're making?

HUXLEY: Well, at the present the television, I think, is being used quite harmlessly; it's being used, I think, I would feel, it's being used too much to distract everybody all the time. But, I mean, imagine which must be the situation in all communist countries where the television, where it exists, is always saying the same things the whole time; it's always driving along. It's not creating a wide front of distraction. It's creating a one-pointed, …drumming in of a single idea, all the time. It's obviously an immensely powerful instrument.

WALLACE: Uh-huh. So you're talking about the potential misuse of the instrument.

HUXLEY: Exactly. We have, of course…all technology is in itself moral and neutral. These are just powers which can either be used well or ill; it is the same thing with atomic energy, we can either use it to blow ourselves up or we can use it as a substitute for the coal and the oil which are running out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45560656)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 9:36 PM
Author: Histrionic Hyperactive Fortuitous Meteor

So glad we don’t have uniform social-political messaging today! Really dodged a bullet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45561262)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 9:44 PM
Author: lake exciting stag film

😅

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45561291)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 10:35 PM
Author: Vibrant newt site

Right, Huxley is the real Orwell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45561549)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 8:49 AM
Author: umber thriller library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45562764)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 2:54 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good embarrassed to the bone yarmulke doctorate

As someone above alluded to, never before in history has a political ideology been founded on self-hate and elevation of outsiders. It goes against all biological imperatives and self-interest.

Although more recent, The Camp of the Saints was somewhat prescient

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559497)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 3:07 PM
Author: lake exciting stag film

HG Wells's THE TIME MACHINE is pretty prescient, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559569)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 3:09 PM
Author: infuriating people who are hurt indian lodge

this is the all-time GOAT of the genre

the eloi alone is the most absolutely devastating "sci-fi" trope ever created

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559591)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 3:10 PM
Author: lake exciting stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45559599)



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Date: November 29th, 2022 9:09 PM
Author: pale whorehouse

I don't think (((publishers))) would have printed a book about the real problems we would face.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45561146)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 1:09 AM
Author: Lemon Beta Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45562245)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 8:46 AM
Author: lake exciting stag film

Lothrop Stoddard

Spengler (Decline & Fall of the West)

Madison Grant

Henry Fairfield Osborn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243992&forum_id=2#45562758)