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Will Tezos dump below ICO price? YES OR NO

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Smoky famous landscape painting
  07/05/18
Fma
Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button
  07/05/18
Hopefully not before I get home
Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button
  07/05/18
Isn't it 5 or 6 times the ICO price?
coiffed twisted codepig
  07/05/18
LOL no. ICO price is like $0.40. It's not going to fall be...
exhilarant wine orchestra pit
  07/05/18
But btc ico price? Maybe
orange soul-stirring alpha
  07/05/18
Would be pretty kooky
carmine stead
  07/05/18
it's already only 30% above ICO price in BTC, although peopl...
emerald dragon generalized bond
  07/05/18
Going to ICO in BTC or ETH wouldn't be that kooky
carmine stead
  07/05/18
Why not? I didn’t realize tezzies come with an option ...
sick comical reading party
  07/05/18
You sound like a student or someone who has never worked out...
exhilarant wine orchestra pit
  07/06/18
Interesting. I just finished reviewing a 15 tab accretion di...
sick comical reading party
  07/06/18
Wow you sound cool and fun
Lake Deranged Pistol Potus
  07/06/18
Thanks bro
sick comical reading party
  07/06/18
Do you have to return some video tapes?
carmine stead
  07/06/18
Aka you pressed a button
Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button
  07/06/18
Ha yeah pretty much. But i made that shit sounds way more im...
sick comical reading party
  07/06/18
lmao at pretending investment bankers do anything hard and t...
emerald dragon generalized bond
  07/06/18
Meh. The work isnt rocket science but you need a mix of prob...
sick comical reading party
  07/06/18
Date: July 5th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: ETH dunking on Skadde...
sick comical reading party
  12/06/18
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White Cruel-hearted Boltzmann House
  12/06/18
I literally cant unload this shit HITBTC is not taking de...
Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button
  07/05/18
unless you bought a shitton and want to offload a portion to...
emerald dragon generalized bond
  07/05/18
...
very tactful french mental disorder skinny woman
  07/05/18
i sold mine for 2 bucks on gate io. i’m american as apple pi...
sick comical reading party
  07/06/18
Have u withdrawn?
Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button
  07/06/18
Yes
sick comical reading party
  07/06/18
May go for it tonight
Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button
  07/06/18
You’ll have to kyc (use your drivers licence) to withdraw bu...
sick comical reading party
  07/06/18
I sold 80% of mine at 2 bucks a pop. I intend to forget that...
sick comical reading party
  07/05/18
highly bumpable poast right here
carmine stead
  07/05/18
bumpable by me lol
sick comical reading party
  07/06/18
Agreed
sick comical reading party
  08/13/18
Date: July 5th, 2018 7:24 PM Author: a mitigated 180 hig...
sick comical reading party
  12/06/18
When moon
very tactful french mental disorder skinny woman
  07/05/18
LJL
lascivious crackhouse becky
  07/08/18
I cant believe people still do this. I’m embarassed to have ...
sick comical reading party
  07/08/18
Just do sell low and brag about it bro
lascivious crackhouse becky
  07/08/18
Just do celebrate random wild swings of an illiquid market a...
sick comical reading party
  07/08/18
I dont understand why you couldn’t just wait another year af...
Adventurous old irish cottage
  07/08/18
My view is it’ll be a while before a major exchange lists it...
sick comical reading party
  07/08/18
Just do panic sell into an illiquid market, failing to recog...
lascivious crackhouse becky
  07/08/18
...
sick comical reading party
  08/13/18
It turns out “LJL” isn’t really a coherent investment thesis
sick comical reading party
  08/13/18
...
carmine stead
  07/08/18
lol dumbass
bearded purple trust fund
  07/08/18
This is the twilight zone. Note I’ve probably made 1000x mor...
sick comical reading party
  07/09/18
sup
sick comical reading party
  08/02/18
Ur poast inspired me to dump ty breh
Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button
  08/13/18
Sup
sick comical reading party
  08/13/18
Date: July 8th, 2018 9:31 PM Author: .,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,...
sick comical reading party
  12/06/18
Very close to ICO BTC price
Smoky famous landscape painting
  07/05/18
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cordovan trip church building candlestick maker
  07/06/18
Surging to $2.45 at the moment, passing VEN in MC for the #1...
very tactful french mental disorder skinny woman
  07/08/18
ljl @ sellcucks
flatulent stag film
  07/08/18
...
cordovan trip church building candlestick maker
  07/08/18
recommend buying? i think it's junk like EOS, but could achi...
sadistic masturbator
  07/08/18
Sorry XYZ no coiners, this does not appear to be going down ...
very tactful french mental disorder skinny woman
  07/18/18
Chandler better not sellcuck. He’s rich now anyway
Adventurous old irish cottage
  07/18/18
I’m poorer now than I was when I was wagecucking
Henna space
  07/19/18
Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth ...
cordovan trip church building candlestick maker
  07/19/18
https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Thrice-of-dust-a...
Henna space
  07/19/18
Fuck my ass, I was pretty sure this wouldn't happen and now ...
very tactful french mental disorder skinny woman
  08/13/18
I feel no great joy for being right itt because you’re not e...
sick comical reading party
  08/13/18
oh hey guys! liquidating at $2 a pop feels mighty nice right...
sick comical reading party
  09/08/18
(fag)
flatulent stag film
  09/10/18
...
Stimulating startled gaming laptop
  09/10/18
...
carmine stead
  09/10/18
who was this?
Glittery Parlor
  08/16/20
We have an answer folks!
sick comical reading party
  12/06/18
Lol
White Cruel-hearted Boltzmann House
  12/06/18
...
Glittery Parlor
  08/15/20


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Date: July 5th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: Smoky famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367546)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button

Fma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367611)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button

Hopefully not before I get home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367614)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: coiffed twisted codepig

Isn't it 5 or 6 times the ICO price?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367748)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 11:53 AM
Author: exhilarant wine orchestra pit

LOL no. ICO price is like $0.40. It's not going to fall below the value of all of it's assets (i.e., all of the eth and btc it raised, some of which I suspect has been converted to cash, although I've not followed that closely)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367778)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: orange soul-stirring alpha

But btc ico price? Maybe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367961)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: carmine stead

Would be pretty kooky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36368208)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: emerald dragon generalized bond

it's already only 30% above ICO price in BTC, although people who bought in ETH are still way ahead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36369555)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: carmine stead

Going to ICO in BTC or ETH wouldn't be that kooky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370298)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

Why not? I didn’t realize tezzies come with an option to flip them into bitcoin/ether. The “LOL” in all caps is especially precious.

The floor is 0.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370173)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: exhilarant wine orchestra pit

You sound like a student or someone who has never worked outside of litigation, so it's precious that you'd opine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36373748)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 11:49 AM
Author: sick comical reading party

Interesting. I just finished reviewing a 15 tab accretion dilution model and fixed it because an analyst forgot to use run rate synergies to calculate pro forma EPS. you have no idea what I just said but it isn’t litigation lmao.

Remind me what you do again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374674)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: Lake Deranged Pistol Potus

Wow you sound cool and fun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374740)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

Thanks bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374764)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: carmine stead

Do you have to return some video tapes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374870)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button

Aka you pressed a button

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36375973)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

Ha yeah pretty much. But i made that shit sounds way more impressive than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36376121)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: emerald dragon generalized bond

lmao at pretending investment bankers do anything hard and the fact that they brag about their MAD EXCEL SKILLZ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36376187)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

Meh. The work isnt rocket science but you need a mix of problem solving skills, attention to detail and business sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36376423)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: sick comical reading party

Date: July 5th, 2018 11:53 AM

Author: ETH dunking on Skadden Assoc (joeybank)

LOL no. ICO price is like $0.40. It's not going to fall below the value of all of it's assets (i.e., all of the eth and btc it raised, some of which I suspect has been converted to cash, although I've not followed that closely)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37358540)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 9:40 AM
Author: White Cruel-hearted Boltzmann House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37359597)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button

I literally cant unload this shit

HITBTC is not taking deposits

gate.io does not allow USmos to withdraw

fuck my literal ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36369857)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: emerald dragon generalized bond

unless you bought a shitton and want to offload a portion to mitigate risk (and take nice profits if you bought in eth) you may as well just hodl for a while at this point. within five years it's either going to 0 or going to be relevant and worth a good amount. if you only have like 10-20k just let it roll.

plus this seems to be a common pattern for "serious" coins. ZIL immediately mooned hard and then cratered, but now it's holding stable. tezos just had an extended post-ICO moon phase because futures were around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36369942)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: very tactful french mental disorder skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370020)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 12:13 AM
Author: sick comical reading party

i sold mine for 2 bucks on gate io. i’m american as apple pie.

youre confusing the wink nod disclaimer for actually caring about excluding americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36372401)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 9:35 AM
Author: Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button

Have u withdrawn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36373793)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 11:50 AM
Author: sick comical reading party

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374678)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button

May go for it tonight

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36375967)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

You’ll have to kyc (use your drivers licence) to withdraw but I got mine approved in a few hours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36376133)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

I sold 80% of mine at 2 bucks a pop. I intend to forget that it ever existed now. Have fun asking when moon ad nauseaum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370182)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: carmine stead

highly bumpable poast right here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370316)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: sick comical reading party

bumpable by me lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36372404)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

Agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36610382)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: sick comical reading party

Date: July 5th, 2018 7:24 PM

Author: a mitigated 180

highly bumpable poast right here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37358530)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: very tactful french mental disorder skinny woman

When moon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370375)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse becky

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36384896)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

I cant believe people still do this. I’m embarassed to have involved myself in crypto and the long term value propostion is still trash. No one knows what its actually worth so of course the price swings wildly. I just wanted to take my 5x profit and wash off the stench of involving myself with this shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36385633)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse becky

Just do sell low and brag about it bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36386056)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 6:23 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

Just do celebrate random wild swings of an illiquid market alongside people making the most retarded investment arguments of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36386730)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Adventurous old irish cottage

I dont understand why you couldn’t just wait another year after holding this long. Tezos is favored to be listed by coinbase...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36386738)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

My view is it’ll be a while before a major exchange lists it given the regulatory risk. And the ongoing litigation feels like a dangling ax. Fuck that crypto is risky enough without that overhang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36387219)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 6:49 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse becky

Just do panic sell into an illiquid market, failing to recognize obvious signs of slippage from overselling, and then get MAF when it recovers, LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36386934)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: sick comical reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36610389)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

It turns out “LJL” isn’t really a coherent investment thesis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36610386)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: carmine stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36387014)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 9:31 PM
Author: bearded purple trust fund

lol dumbass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36387994)



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Date: July 9th, 2018 12:54 AM
Author: sick comical reading party

This is the twilight zone. Note I’ve probably made 1000x more than you ever will on crypto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36389175)



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Date: August 2nd, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36542673)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: Stubborn Cuck Factory Reset Button

Ur poast inspired me to dump ty breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36609386)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

Sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36610392)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: sick comical reading party

Date: July 8th, 2018 9:31 PM

Author: .,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.

lol dumbass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37358533)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 8:06 PM
Author: Smoky famous landscape painting

Very close to ICO BTC price

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370589)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 10:32 AM
Author: cordovan trip church building candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374108)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 10:08 AM
Author: very tactful french mental disorder skinny woman

Surging to $2.45 at the moment, passing VEN in MC for the #18 spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36384494)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: flatulent stag film

ljl @ sellcucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36384683)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: cordovan trip church building candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36386585)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: sadistic masturbator

recommend buying? i think it's junk like EOS, but could achieve similar gains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36387316)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: very tactful french mental disorder skinny woman

Sorry XYZ no coiners, this does not appear to be going down below ICO prices just yet

Currently at $2.34 or around 6X ICO price in $ and just passed BNB for the #17 spot and still only on one shitty exchange



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36455208)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: Adventurous old irish cottage

Chandler better not sellcuck. He’s rich now anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36456958)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: Henna space

I’m poorer now than I was when I was wagecucking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36459670)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: cordovan trip church building candlestick maker

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36460934)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: Henna space

https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Thrice-of-dust-and-nations-lyrics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36461956)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: very tactful french mental disorder skinny woman

Fuck my ass, I was pretty sure this wouldn't happen and now I'm envisioning a future competing with Peterman on the lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36609332)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

I feel no great joy for being right itt because you’re not exactly a group of genius hedge fund portfolio managers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36610403)



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Date: September 8th, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: sick comical reading party

oh hey guys! liquidating at $2 a pop feels mighty nice right now! pls tell me more about the “fundamentals” of an “asset” with no apparent capacity to generate future cash flows. nah i’m just playing: doing so just perverts the concept of investment fundamentals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36770773)



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Date: September 10th, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: flatulent stag film

(fag)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36783761)



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Date: September 10th, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: Stimulating startled gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36783838)



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Date: September 10th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: carmine stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36784244)



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Date: August 16th, 2020 4:41 PM
Author: Glittery Parlor

who was this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#40765104)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: sick comical reading party

We have an answer folks!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37358523)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: White Cruel-hearted Boltzmann House

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37359614)



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Date: August 15th, 2020 4:44 PM
Author: Glittery Parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#40760889)